> -----Original Message----- > From: IMail_Forum-owner@list.ipswitch.com > [mailto:IMail_Forum-owner@list.ipswitch.com]On Behalf Of Don Brown > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:54 PM > To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] HEADER QUESTION > > > Geez, guys. C'mon, let's get on with something else. > This dog won't hunt anymore. Let's move on. O.K. ? > > At 07:18 PM 10/26/00 -0400, you wrote: > >We are still discussing it because you're being inexplicably > disingenous, > >doing a disservice to this list and to people who have > trusted you to give > >bring an honest eye to such discussions. You are stating > that "sender:" and > >"x-sender:" are essentially interchangeable because the RFC > writers didn't > >think enough about the "sender:" and other standard headers. You are > >blatantly avoiding the question of the original poster, > Anthony Abby, who > >asked if an RFC-compliant server could treat use the > x-sender: as the from:, > >a question which I answered straightforwardly, without prejudice, > >and--excepting your essntially off-topic semantic argument > that "trust is in > >the eye of the prospective truster," etc.--correctly. I > think you owe the > >list an apology for continuing to waste time on a rant. And > no, I will not > >be the first to discontinue the argument, because your abrasive > >manner--complained about many times in the past, I > note--demands that I > >object. > > > >In case you haven't picked this up before: I NEVER SAID ONE > SHOULD ENTRUST > >USER AUTHORIZATION TO THE STANDARD HEADER FIELDS. It's time > you drop your > >accusation, and reverse your assumption, that I implied > anything in this > >regard. A quick scan of this thread shows that you veered > off the topic > >rather bizarrely. I started a new thread, "Standard SMTP > headers as user > >authorization," so that people can discuss how right you are > on the OTHER > >matter. > > > >Sandy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IMail_Forum-owner@list.ipswitch.com > > > [mailto:IMail_Forum-owner@list.ipswitch.com]On Behalf Of > Len Conrad > > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:52 PM > > > To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] HEADER QUESTION > > > > > > > > > > > > >It's about the RFCs, which, as you concur, suggest that > the standard > > > >headers were designed to be considered trustworthy > > > > > > Screw the RFC's saying headers are "trustworthy", all > from/to headers > > > are forgeable extremely easily. > > > > > > Why are we even discussing this blatant, unchallengeabble, banally > > > verifiable point? > > > > > > Listen, all you Trust-the-Headers people, you go run > "relay for local > > > user/domains" and let us know how your trust pays you > back within in > > > a few weeks, if not sooner. > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. > donbrown@inetconcepts.net http://www.inetconcepts.net > PGP Key ID: 04C99A55 (972) 788-2364 Fax: > (972) 788-5049 > Providing Internet Solutions Worldwide - An eDataWeb Affiliate > ---- > > > > > >