I think this has to do with the upgrade procedure. I have verified that it works fine w/ a clean install on NT and Win2k - right now I'm debugging the upgrade to see where it's hosing things up.

- peter

-----Original Message----- From: Spike [mailto:Spike@zen2000.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:54 AM To: Spectra-Talk Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3

Yes,

Machine config is: Win2k Adv Server CF 5.0 beta 3 Spectra 1.5

CF 5.0 was just installed over the top of 4.52. Spectra was not reinstalled after 5.0.

spike

At 00:34 05/04/2001 Thursday, you wrote: >Spike, > >Are you running win2k as well? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Spike [mailto:Spike@zen2000.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:10 PM >To: Spectra-Talk >Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3 > > >For me the code below always returns > >isAuthenticated('sc1'): NO >isAuthenticated('sc1'): YES > > >Code: > ><CFOUTPUT> >isAuthenticated(): #IsAuthenticated('sc1')#<BR> > ><CFAUTHENTICATE PASSWORD="siteminder" USERNAME="admin" >SECURITYCONTEXT="sc1" SETCOOKIE="Yes"> > >isAuthenticated(): #IsAuthenticated('sc1')#<BR> ><BR> > ></CFOUTPUT> > >At 18:40 03/04/2001 Tuesday, you wrote: > >David and Spike, > > > >I am not able to recreate the authentication issue. > >Here is the code I'm running. > > > ><cfset authenticated = isAuthenticated('sc1')> > ><cfoutput>authenticated:#authenticated#</cfoutput><br> > > > ><cfauthenticate > > securitycontext="sc1" > > username="admin" > > password="admin"> > > > ><cfset authenticated = isAuthenticated('sc1')> > ><cfoutput>authenticated:#authenticated#</cfoutput> > > > > > >1st run it shows: > >authenticated:NO > >authenticated:YES > > > >2nd run and subsequent runs: > >authenticated:YES > >authenticated:YES > > > > > >You can try out the Flush mechanism in the CF 5.0 admin to clear this out > >and start fresh. The authentication cache is always on, so even if you > >delete the cookie the user will still authenticate until you flush the >cache > >from the admin. > > > >Let me know what you guys are seeing.... > > > >- peter > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Spike [mailto:Spike@zen2000.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:09 AM > >To: Spectra-Talk > >Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3 > > > > > >David, > > > >Can you post the strings you used from the 4.5 install. > > > >I tried playing around with this a bit with no success. > > > >There seemed to be quite a few extra ones in the interface for 5.0. > > > >I am also finding the same problem with the authentication cookie. > > > >You can, of course create your own encrypted cookie containing security > >context, username and password and put a cfauthenticate tag at the top of > >the application.cfm and pass the decrypted values in as attributes. > > > >It's an awful hack, but it works. > > > >The problem I am hitting now is that the cfa_userget tag expects the old > >userdirectory structure with username and groupname as fields. So if you > >could post the strings you used I should be able to use the old > >userdirectory and have a fully working webtop. > > > >spike > > > >At 23:23 02/04/2001 Monday, you wrote: > > >Peter - > > > > > >Is the reason you need to use SmSampleUsers.mdb instead of Spectra's > > >UserDirectory.mdb because of the SQL queries associated with the UD for > > >InitUser, GetUserProp, etc (all of the stuff at the bottom of the page)? > > > > > >I updated this on my userdirectory definition with the appropriate >strings > > >from the SmDsQuery.ini file from a 4.5 installation, and I was able to >get > > >the userdirectory.mdb database to work. > > > > > >Still haven't worked out the cookie/authentication issues, though. > > > > > >-- David > > > > > >At 05:06 PM 4/2/2001 Monday, you wrote: > > > >David, Spike & All, > > > > > > > >I've been working on Spectra 1.5 and CF 5.0 compatibility. > > > >We have new Netegrity Siteminder (v 4.11) bits w/ cf 5.0 -so there are >a > >few > > > >issues to work out. > > > > > > > >I was able to get Spectra 1.5 up and running w/ Beta 2 on Solaris >without > >to > > > >much effort. > > > >(*Advanced Security was not available for NT) > > > > > > > >With NT we've been running into some issues w/ ODBC policy store > >migrations > > > >(*see beta 3 release notes for details) > > > >and also with ODBC userdirectories (I'm currently debugging this one). > > > >Something with the default spectra user directory is causing the > >problems. > > > > > > > > > > > >To get around this and get the webtop up do the following: > > > >(*** obviously a hack - we are working to resolve the issues) > > > > > > > >BASICALLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS POINT "UserDirectory" TO ANOTHER >ACCESS > > > >DATABASE: > > > > > > > >1. Go into the cfadmin/ advanced security and turn off all caches - >then > > > >click "apply changes" > > > > > > > >2. under "Flush ColdFusion and Security Server Caches" click "purge >all". (** This is a cool enhancement for cf 5.0 that saves you from >having > >to > > > >cycle the services while debugging) > > > > > > > >3. click on user directories and select UserDirectory > > > > > > > >4. change the location from UserDirectory to smsampleusers and click > >apply (** this is the test .mdb user directory that ships w/ CF - should > >be > > > >listed under ODBC datasources) > > > > > > > >5. Change the URL of the config wizard to: http://127.0.0.1/allaire/spectra/install/index.cfm?step=5 > > > > > > > >6. select "Launch the Allaire Spectra Webtop" > > > > > > > >7. login with username=admin password=siteminder *** you can modify the admin username and password by going >directly > >to > > > >the Access database located at: C:\cfusion\database\smsampleusers.mdb - just modify the smuser > >table. > > > > > > > >This will skip all of the UserDirectory specific steps and allow you to > > > >login to the webtop. > > > >The configuration wizard is being updated for compatibility w/ CF 5.0 >and > >I > > > >will post any fixes to this thread going forward. > > > > > > > >Also note that the Spectra collections creation step will be skipped. >We > > > >are also working with new verity binaries and need to resolve a few > >issues. > > > > > > > >regards, > > > >peter watson > > > >cf & spectra qa > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: David An [mailto:davida@mindseye.com] > > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:00 PM > > > >To: Spectra-Talk > > > >Subject: RE: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Spike - > > > > > > > >I'm having the same problems :) > > > > > > > >I've got it narrowed down to the IsAuthenticated()/AuthenticatedUser() > > > >functions. > > > > > > > >Try this on a CF4.5/Spectra 1.5 box ... > > > >#IsAuthenticated()# > > > ><cfa_authenticate ... (stuff) > > > > >#IsAuthenticated()# > > > > > > > >load the page twice ... you'll see that the second load, >IsAuthenticated > > > >returns true even before you've cfa_authenticated ... it's reading that > > > >from the cfauth cookie (right?) > > > > > > > >Then try the same code on CF5.0b3/Spectra 1.5 ... you never return true > > > >based on your cookie. Thus, the whole cfa_secure tag is hosed and you > > > >can't get anywhere in the webtop. > > > > > > > >-- David > > > > > > > >At 09:21 PM 4/2/2001 Monday, you wrote: >At 21:14 02/04/2001 Monday, you wrote: > >Did you install Spectra _after_ CF 5 b3? > >Nope... > >Am I a stoopid person for not reading the manual? > > > >Go into your advanced security settings and double check that SC1 >is > > > >using > >"UserDirectory" as the user directory. > >Go to ODBC and confirm UserDirectory points to the mdb file Spectra > >installs. > >Open the MDB file and confirm your username/password are in there. > >I've done all of these things and everything checks out fine. > > > > > >======================================================================= > >Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for >Macromedia > > > >Email : jedimaster@macromedia.com > >ICQ UIN : 3679482 > > > >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Spike [mailto:spike@zen2000.com] > > > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:01 PM > > > To: Spectra-Talk > > > Subject: Spectra and cf 5.0 beta 3 > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Has anyone managed to get Spectra working on Beta3? > > > > > > I have been mucking around with it all day and have got the > >security > > > context working fine, but the webtop says that the username and > > > >password > > > I'm using doesn't correspond with a valid user. > > > > > > I'm using Spectra 1.5 on Win2k with an odbc database as the user > > > directory. > > > > > > Spike > > > > > > Stephen Milligan > > > Internet Developer and Allaire training guru > > > Tel: +34 686 021171 > > > ICQ: 15831735 > > > Email: spike@spike.org.uk <mailto:spike@spike.org.uk> > > > "A good developer is the type of person who looks both ways on >an > >one > > > >way > > > street!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. 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